Comments on: Python as an extension language: Not all beer and sunshine http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python Sublime Text News Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:50:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Dan http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-436 Dan Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:11:26 +0000 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-436 Lua makes a good extension language, with the caveat that its greatest strength (and weakness) is that it's rather lean in the libraries department. Lua makes a good extension language, with the caveat that its greatest strength (and weakness) is that it’s rather lean in the libraries department.

]]> By: mvm http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-435 mvm Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:22:24 +0000 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-435 Jon, what do you think about lua as extension language for sublime? Jon, what do you think about lua as extension language for sublime?

]]> By: NSaibot http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-434 NSaibot Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:17:45 +0000 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-434 @Nicola Larosa: i'm not advocating! i'm merely asking. "Despite this, I still think you’d be mad to use anything else as an extension language." this sentence is the reason i asked the question. i'm using ruby for myself, and i know it either has some unicode issues; just like python has. still it is a very flexible language and fun to work with. on the other hand, there is lua. so, basically, my thinking was that jon isn't/wasn't aware of those alternatives :) @Nicola Larosa: i’m not advocating! i’m merely asking.

“Despite this, I still think you’d be mad to use anything else as an extension language.” this sentence is the reason i asked the question. i’m using ruby for myself, and i know it either has some unicode issues; just like python has. still it is a very flexible language and fun to work with.

on the other hand, there is lua. so, basically, my thinking was that jon isn’t/wasn’t aware of those alternatives :)

]]> By: Mattie http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-433 Mattie Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:48:02 +0000 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-433 I've run into a lot of pain points like that which I covered at Pycon this year. I love Python, but it's far harder than it should be to embed it cleanly. Here's a paper I published for Pycon about some of the objectives and issues we had: http://us.pycon.org/common/2008/talkdata/PyCon2008/020/Case_Study_-_Embedding_Python_into_Counter-Strike_Source.pdf I’ve run into a lot of pain points like that which I covered at Pycon this year. I love Python, but it’s far harder than it should be to embed it cleanly.

Here’s a paper I published for Pycon about some of the objectives and issues we had:
http://us.pycon.org/common/2008/talkdata/PyCon2008/020/Case_Study_-_Embedding_Python_into_Counter-Strike_Source.pdf

]]> By: Christopher Cashell http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-431 Christopher Cashell Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:11:35 +0000 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-431 I'm going to have to disagree with your conclusion. I honestly think Lua is the best choice for an extension language these days. I’m going to have to disagree with your conclusion.

I honestly think Lua is the best choice for an extension language these days.

]]> By: SDC http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-430 SDC Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:44:26 +0000 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-430 What about lua? http://www.lua.org/ Build about twenty c files straight into your app (or into a dll if you like that kind of thing) and its done, standard libraries and all. Beautiful little language, and dead easy to create bindings with. Extension language integration doesn't any get easier than that... What about lua?
http://www.lua.org/
Build about twenty c files straight into your app (or into a dll if you like that kind of thing) and its done, standard libraries and all. Beautiful little language, and dead easy to create bindings with.
Extension language integration doesn’t any get easier than that…

]]> By: Jon Skinner http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-425 Jon Skinner Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:10:47 +0000 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-425 kib2: There's a lot to like about that approach, but requiring users to first install Python is asking a fair bit - there's a lot to be said to being able to download a single install and have it just work. skymt0: Do you have any references? It's not fixed in the current 3.0a4 alpha, and I hazily recall reading that there's no intention to fix it. The behavior of the current 3.0 build is the same as 2.5: You can put unicode strings in sys.path, they just don't work. As Ken pointed out, there have been some patches to fix it floating around, but I don't know the current status of any of them. kib2: There’s a lot to like about that approach, but requiring users to first install Python is asking a fair bit - there’s a lot to be said to being able to download a single install and have it just work.

skymt0: Do you have any references? It’s not fixed in the current 3.0a4 alpha, and I hazily recall reading that there’s no intention to fix it. The behavior of the current 3.0 build is the same as 2.5: You can put unicode strings in sys.path, they just don’t work.

As Ken pointed out, there have been some patches to fix it floating around, but I don’t know the current status of any of them.

]]> By: Nicola Larosa http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-423 Nicola Larosa Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:31:16 +0000 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-423 NSailbot: wanna do mindless advocacy? Get the guy off Windows, don't give him an inferior language. ;-P NSailbot: wanna do mindless advocacy? Get the guy off Windows, don’t give him an inferior language. ;-P

]]> By: she http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-422 she Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:25:59 +0000 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-422 There currently is a reddit war going on - python vs ruby. One big agenda is Unicode (a topic which totally bores me personally) My problem is not so much about the war, but about _OTHER_ blogs that do not allow comments. Please dear visitors, support blogs that allow comments and do not waste any time visiting blogs that disallow comments. This blog here allows comments so I approve of it! There currently is a reddit war going on - python vs ruby. One big agenda is Unicode (a topic which totally bores me personally)

My problem is not so much about the war, but about _OTHER_ blogs that do not allow comments.

Please dear visitors, support blogs that allow comments and do not waste any time visiting blogs that disallow comments.

This blog here allows comments so I approve of it!

]]> By: NSaibot2 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-421 NSaibot2 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:22:08 +0000 http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/extending-with-python#comment-421 you aren't familiar with ruby are you? you aren’t familiar with ruby are you?

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