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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

Postby shushens on Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:50 pm

I have noticed that some very very basic C++ autocomplete features are working without any plugins. SublimeClang did not work all that well in Linux, and the quality of the autocomplete was nowhere near comparable with something like Eclipse CDT, for example, although the idea was very similar (offering autocomplete based on built dumps). For something as basic as C/C++, a good autocomplete system is highly desired and sought after, or so is my understanding. Since now ST3 has such a convenient jump-to-definition feature, which I am assuming will work out of the box with Python and suchlike, I see no mention anywhere on how this should be put to work with C/C++, as if it is assumed people use Sublime Text for PHP development. This sort of makes me feel awkward, and I am sure that I am not alone. Is it possible for SublimeText to have its own autocomplete system, or to integrate with some well known autocomplete system that already works well (with Eclipse, or Emacs, or something else)? I believe this is an important question for Desktop developers in general.
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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

Postby Arcsech on Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:26 am

New changes a pretty cool, instant startup time is unbelievably nice, price stuff is mildly annoying but eh, it's not like any other text editor really compares (even the ones that are much more expensive) so I'm just glad Sublime is as cheap as it is.

Besides, the trial with no time limit means that you can effectively use Sublime for free. I'm kind of assuming ST3 will have a similar deal. The way I figure it, the trial is the educational discount version, it just reminds you that once you have money you should buy it!
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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

Postby jbjornson on Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:29 am

drcongo wrote:I too would like to complain about the upgrade pricing, it's far too cheap. I make a decent living coding in Sublime Text all day and using two of my brain cells was able to formulate a basic understanding of its value to me. While doing this, two of my other brain cells were busy coming to the conclusion that if Jon had simply spent the next six months twiddling his thumbs, sipping fine wine and lounging on his huge pile of well deserved cash instead of working his butt off, then there wouldn't be an endless stream of ingrates criticising him for daring to charge for his work.

Now, where's the donate button so I can show some extra appreciation for all the man-hours ST has saved me?


+1 Well said drcongo :-)
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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

Postby ripclaw on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:00 am

First off, so far ST3 looks very cool, that instant startup is is very nice. Price is more than fair, imho, for what you get.

Tiniest of suggestions: could you maybe change the program icon to something else? Since I run v3 in parallel to v2 (for the plugins), it'd be nice to differentiate them in the toolbar... (I for one love this icon: http://dribbble.com/shots/442575-Anothe ... st=buckets )

Cheers
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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

Postby ripclaw on Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:13 am

One thing I notice in ST3 that's a bit annoying is that if you click on the code map outside the current area (the grey tinted area), you can't immediately drag that area. This was possible in ST2 and was super convenient - you'd click anywhere on the code map, the active (grey) area would jump there and you could drag it around. I hope that's just a bug in ST3?
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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

Postby FichteFoll on Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:55 pm

@ripclaw: This was implemented in ST2 Dev 2220 and can be disabled: https://www.sublimetext.com/dev
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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

Postby Broo0d on Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:27 pm

Is there any news about bidirectional text and rtl languages in st3 ?
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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

Postby jburnett on Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:46 pm

FichteFoll wrote:@ripclaw: This was implemented in ST2 Dev 2220 and can be disabled: https://www.sublimetext.com/dev


...ripclaw is right, ST3 has a regression here. While "minimap_scroll_to_clicked_text" exists, in ST2 you could click on the minimap column to jump to a location, and then drag to immediately start scrolling without letting up on the mouse. In ST3 you have to click once to jump to a given view, and then click again to scroll.

"minimap_scroll_to_clicked_text" also isn't in the default Preferences.sublime-settings, and probably should be?
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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

Postby giulianisanches on Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:16 pm

Hi.

Could we expect that these requests will be addressed:

http://sublimetext.userecho.com/topic/5 ... n-support/
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3318

?

It's the main thing that keep me away from SublimeText for a while (and using emacs)

Thanks.
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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta

Postby marcuso on Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:45 pm

I'm still using the trial version of Sublime and was just about to make the purchase before this all kicked off.

Sublime is a very nice piece of software, I'm very impressed with it. Along with SublimeClang, Astyle and a couple of other plugins I finally have a Linux workflow that works well for me.

I would agree with the comments regarding upgrade pricing though, $70 is a fair price to pay for such a well engineered editor. But, as is normal in the software industry, a period of upgrades should be included in this price.

As it stands I'm forced to evaluate whether this particular build "SublimeText 2.0.1 build 2217" will meet my needs exactly as is, bugs and all - my $70 does not subscribe me to a living project that has the potential to improve and evolve.

That's a shame.
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