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Re: Updates for the stable Sublime Text

Postby itaiferber on Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:20 am

While I think you're right to be upset that the stable branch of ST2 hasn't been updated in quite a while, and that Jon might not be the most responsive developer in the world, if you've purchased a copy of ST2, why not try out the latest dev or nightly build? In my experience, both branches have been rock solid (I run exclusively nightly builds of ST2 and I've never had an issue), and while Jon was working on ST2, the nightly branch received bug fixes every few days. If you're willing to give it a try, ST3 also gets updates very few days, and for now, your ST2 license will work. Just a suggestion. :)
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Re: Updates for the stable Sublime Text

Postby davejones on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:30 am

itaiferber wrote:While I think you're right to be upset that the stable branch of ST2 hasn't been updated in quite a while, and that Jon might not be the most responsive developer in the world, if you've purchased a copy of ST2, why not try out the latest dev or nightly build? In my experience, both branches have been rock solid (I run exclusively nightly builds of ST2 and I've never had an issue), and while Jon was working on ST2, the nightly branch received bug fixes every few days. If you're willing to give it a try, ST3 also gets updates very few days, and for now, your ST2 license will work. Just a suggestion. :)


No, thank you, I don't wish to run into the same bugs everyone is running into. I don't want to repeat the experience I've had and I'm still having with ST2.
I wish to receive updates after the BETA is done and I'm not looking to trade the problems I'm having with ST2 for problems I'd have with ST3.

Furthermore, I have a very small number of plugins, but I really need those plugins, so I won't be giving up on ST2 to switch to the extremely unstable and buggy ST3.
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Re: Updates for the stable Sublime Text

Postby quarnster on Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:43 am

While ST3 beta has been stable for me, I agree that the lack of updates for ST2 is hugely disappointing, especially as ST2 was crashing on me several times a day (not due to plugins) and there was a period of ~6 months where pretty much nothing at all was communicated to users reporting problems. This is making me doubt whether I should pay for the ST3 upgrade when it's finally released.
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Re: Updates for the stable Sublime Text

Postby bizoo on Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:29 am

quarnster wrote:While ST3 beta has been stable for me, I agree that the lack of updates for ST2 is hugely disappointing, especially as ST2 was crashing on me several times a day (not due to plugins) and there was a period of ~6 months where pretty much nothing at all was communicated to users reporting problems. This is making me doubt whether I should pay for the ST3 upgrade when it's finally released.

Agree.

It was the same with the transition from ST1 to ST2, but ST2 was so much better and as I didn't invest too much time in configuring ST1, I didn't think twice before using ST2 Beta and forgot ST1.

Today it's different.

Even if ST3 has some nice features, I don't feel in urge to start using it.
I spend a lot of time configuring ST2, and I don't want to do it again before a stable release of ST3 with all my needed plugins available.

There's few bugs in ST2 (some are resolved in ST3) that I like to see fixed.
And maybe a few things could be done to facilitate the compatibility of plugins between ST2 and ST3 (like automatically calling plugin_loaded() in ST2).
But it looks like ST2 development is dead.

I really expect an answer from jps too.
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Re: Updates for the stable Sublime Text

Postby davejones on Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:28 pm

quarnster wrote:While ST3 beta has been stable for me, I agree that the lack of updates for ST2 is hugely disappointing, especially as ST2 was crashing on me several times a day (not due to plugins) and there was a period of ~6 months where pretty much nothing at all was communicated to users reporting problems. This is making me doubt whether I should pay for the ST3 upgrade when it's finally released.



bizoo wrote:
quarnster wrote:While ST3 beta has been stable for me, I agree that the lack of updates for ST2 is hugely disappointing, especially as ST2 was crashing on me several times a day (not due to plugins) and there was a period of ~6 months where pretty much nothing at all was communicated to users reporting problems. This is making me doubt whether I should pay for the ST3 upgrade when it's finally released.

Agree.

It was the same with the transition from ST1 to ST2, but ST2 was so much better and as I didn't invest too much time in configuring ST1, I didn't think twice before using ST2 Beta and forgot ST1.

Today it's different.

Even if ST3 has some nice features, I don't feel in urge to start using it.
I spend a lot of time configuring ST2, and I don't want to do it again before a stable release of ST3 with all my needed plugins available.

There's few bugs in ST2 (some are resolved in ST3) that I like to see fixed.
And maybe a few things could be done to facilitate the compatibility of plugins between ST2 and ST3 (like automatically calling plugin_loaded() in ST2).
But it looks like ST2 development is dead.

I really expect an answer from jps too.



I have started to add images of errors to my original post. Perhaps this will help get some attention.
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Re: Updates for the stable Sublime Text

Postby iamntz on Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:34 pm

And how it's ST fault that you are using invalid config files? (on a package that it's not even built in into ST!)
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Re: Updates for the stable Sublime Text

Postby davejones on Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:50 pm

iamntz wrote:And how it's ST fault that you are using invalid config files? (on a package that it's not even built in into ST!)


I didn't add anything to the configuration of that package.... the eror doesn't even show up all the time...even though I used the package all the time.....

I see that you're a hardcore fan of ST2. Perhaps you could ignore this thread so you don't get offended.

Oh, yeah, without those few basic packages, using this editor isn't really worth the effort, nor the money.
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Re: Updates for the stable Sublime Text

Postby iamntz on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:03 pm

I didn't add anything to the configuration of that package...

It seems that you mix packages support with the editor support. While first are community packages (which, btw, you can contribute to!), the second has fairly good support (most real bug reports has replies and fixes)

There are some stuff that i consider annoying (like lack of tooltips, sidebar customization, code folding based on indentation only and so on), but bugs on the editor itself? Not that much.

Out of curiosity: name few bugs of the editor.
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Re: Updates for the stable Sublime Text

Postby davejones on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:07 pm

iamntz wrote:
I didn't add anything to the configuration of that package...

It seems that you mix packages support with the editor support. While first are community packages (which, btw, you can contribute to!), the second has fairly good support (most real bug reports has replies and fixes)

There are some stuff that i consider annoying (like lack of tooltips, sidebar customization, code folding based on indentation only and so on), but bugs on the editor itself? Not that much.

Out of curiosity: name few bugs of the editor.


I'm not confusing anything with anything else. I get this error from time to time and it's completely random. I've edited sass files for hours and never got this error. However, it simply pops up after running ST2 for some hours.

It's not possible for bugs to have been fixed in ST2 since there haven't been any updates to the stable version since last year.

Furthermore, I will take screenshots for each and every error from now on, so you'll probably get to see those bugs you've asked for.

I encourage everyone else who's running into bugs in ST2 to post in this thread. Maybe people will understand this thing REALLY needs some support from the developer.
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Re: Updates for the stable Sublime Text

Postby iamntz on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:18 pm

I get this error from time to time and it's completely random. I've edited sass files for hours and never got this error. However, it simply pops up after running ST2 for some hours.

Why don't you just delete that file?
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