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Development Status - July 2014

#35

Dev build is out, with stable beta version to follow:

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#36

Everything that’s missing here is “notify me of replies” - which is basically just an option.

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#37

Any chance of a student license in the future? I’ve moved over to scotland to study and just can’t afford to pay 52 euro for this software at this time.

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#38

Will 4 be released before 3?

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#39

Maybe even in this decade. jps has now pleased the fanboy crowd by another underwhelming release, so I guess another six months of silence will ensue.

It’s pretty lame.

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#40

[quote=“stikker”]

Maybe even in this decade. jps has now pleased the fanboy crowd by another underwhelming release, so I guess another six months of silence will ensue.

It’s pretty lame.[/quote]

Exactly my thoughts. There won’t be a chance as long as this is jps’s “spare time” project.

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#41

Kari - any chance for a regular monthly update?

I don’t care if it’s 6 months between releases - I just get the warm-n-fuzzies knowing work is being done.

It’s the lapses of communication which hurt. :unamused:

Jim

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#42

In any case, looking forward to ST3! Thanks again for the great work Jon + Kari.

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#43

[quote=“thecrumb”]Kari - any chance for a regular monthly update?

I don’t care if it’s 6 months between releases - I just get the warm-n-fuzzies knowing work is being done.

It’s the lapses of communication which hurt. :unamused:

Jim[/quote]

Here is your last 6 months of updates.

Month 1:

Thought about writing code, didn’t’ bother

Month 2:

Wrote one line of code for some useless feature, might continue someday.

Month 3:

Drank a lot of coffee, stayed up late, but didn’t get any code done, Maybe next month.

Month 4:

Wrote 3 more lines of code this month, I can’t remember what it was for.

Month 5:

Remembered what I wrote last month, decided to not finish it, wrote 5 lines of code for another useless feature.

Month 6:

Big day, shipping a release, Did 10 lines of code this month. Finished 2 unimportant features.
Celebrate!

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#44

WOW! You guys are brutal!

I can’t help but think that if you don’t like the product, don’t use it. But, geez, if all you can do is gripe instead of encourage, maybe you should just back away from your keyboard.

I’m just starting to get to know SublimeText. All I know thus far is that everyone universally loves it, except for the whiners complaining about the distance between updates and progress on a final release of v3.

Just take a deep breath, learn more about the tool, suggest improvements, and be patient. And REALLY hold you tongue if you haven’t even bothered to pay for it yet. I, for one, would find it extremely discouraging to put in any programming effort after reading some of these recent sarcastic, snide comments.

Dudes, grow up.

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#45

As a manager of mine once said as I moved into software management, “Remember, they’re children”.

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#46

Who are you accusing? People on this forum have written hundreds of packages for sublime text, and spent countless hours on it. The refusal of communication and fixing of the trivial bugs which hinder better packages being written, is the cause of the frustration.

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#47

[quote=“JHep”]WOW! You guys are brutal!

I can’t help but think that if you don’t like the product, don’t use it. But, geez, if all you can do is gripe instead of encourage, maybe you should just back away from your keyboard.

I’m just starting to get to know SublimeText. All I know thus far is that everyone universally loves it, except for the whiners complaining about the distance between updates and progress on a final release of v3.

Just take a deep breath, learn more about the tool, suggest improvements, and be patient. And REALLY hold you tongue if you haven’t even bothered to pay for it yet. I, for one, would find it extremely discouraging to put in any programming effort after reading some of these recent sarcastic, snide comments.

Dudes, grow up.[/quote]

The problem is I love the product and it is a disappointment it is going the way of Textmate.

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#48

And if you are “just starting to get to know SublimeText” you weren’t around during the ‘early days’ when there would be daily releases it seemed.

Ahh the good ole days :smile:

Jim

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#49

Well, now we know.

It went exactly as predicted. jps came in, was active for two days, and has not been seen since.

The promised august update, after the long hiatus, was about as exiting as watching transparent paint dry. None of the important bugs got fixed.

Given the amount of issues, I think new customers are free to feel swindled…

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#50

I for one welcome my yearly update.

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#51

Good to hear jps is still working on Sublime Text.

As a suggestion or question, has jps considered to let the community (further) develop some components of Sublime Text? Not the core architecture and the plugins API, but stuff like the syntax definitions and the way certain UI elements and commands work. For example, Goto Symbol … behaves unexpected when mixing scopes, goes to unexpected files. If the whole logic was in a .py file, it could easily be modified. Some commands are already in .py files in the Default package, such as symbol.py. Moving more commands into public packages would enable the community to modify them more easily. It could even be possible to merge sensible changes back in (although that might be problematic with the licensing)

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#52

[quote=“Narretz”]Good to hear jps is still working on Sublime Text.

As a suggestion or question, has jps considered to let the community (further) develop some components of Sublime Text? Not the core architecture and the plugins API, but stuff like the syntax definitions and the way certain UI elements and commands work. For example, Goto Symbol … behaves unexpected when mixing scopes, goes to unexpected files. If the whole logic was in a .py file, it could easily be modified. Some commands are already in .py files in the Default package, such as symbol.py. Moving more commands into public packages would enable the community to modify them more easily. It could even be possible to merge sensible changes back in (although that might be problematic with the licensing)[/quote]

I think that open sourcing the core plugins and python code (or at least some of them) on somewhere like github would result in a huge number of bugs being resolved and cool new features being added with little effort from jps. SublimeText could package the most recent version of these “core” plugins with each deployment and support updates through wbond’s fantastic package control.

I really hope that jps is considering this. I understand that there is some overhead and work involved in managing an open source project but I think the benefits would far outweigh the negatives. jps could even give a few select developers commit rights to the project so they could manage the merging of bug fixes. I suppose the biggest problem would be in handling different version of the underlying api for users that aren’t on the most recent version…

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#53

It took textmate’s author years to open source his dead product, and look what happened, it remained dead. I like sublime text and hope it doesn’t go the way of textmate. I think that sublimetext development wasn’t as hot as it once was due to people’s frustration with the bugs, but it’s still rather active. Open sourcing sublime text sooner than later would be a good idea while it lasts.

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#54

The “august update” was, well, almost nothing in terms of real bugs fixed (the save thing in particular)

Kari, when can we expect a new update??

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