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Will you be turning the hot_exit global setting off?

No, I'll leave it enabled as per the defaults
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Yes, I prefer not to preserve the session
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Re: Dev Build 2120

Postby natebeaty on Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:24 pm

aparajita wrote:I don't remember seeing any documentation for the menu item to hide Open Files. We can't be expected to do a diff on the menu items with each new release.


You're using a bleeding edge release of beta software, how can you possibly expect documentation? I don't think it's up to Jon to expect users to do anything with this sort of release but to give reasonably tempered feedback and appreciation for being the rare breed of developer that releases so rapidly & is so communicative with the user base. As he says, it's in the changelog, which are always clearly written.

If it was a v1.0 and you'd paid $60, then I could see getting upset about a lack of docs -- but you would have known that before buying the software.
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Re: Dev Build 2120

Postby aparajita on Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:40 pm

Nate,

If you look at my original post, I said that *at some point* he will need documentation to foster greater adoption, meaning that I am fully aware that it is in beta and I can't expect the docs to be finished *yet*. My only concern is that a product as great as ST2 fulfill its potential by having decent documentation. And I express my concern about documentation because ST1 did not have really good documentation either. The best documentation available has all been done by third parties.

That is not a criticism, it's an observation. Good documentation is difficult, tedious, and time-consuming to write. I know, I have written well over 1,000 pages of documentation for my own products.

As for appreciating Jon and ST2, please, you cannot judge me by one sentence. I have volunteered weeks of my time and effort in maintaining two plugins, SublimeLinter and Cappuccino-Sublime. I have promoted ST2 heavily in all the developer communities I interact with and succeeded in winning many converts. So when it comes to supporting Jon and ST2, you cannot question my commitment.

So I'll say it again: thank you Jon for ST2 and for listening to your users. We love ST2!
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Re: Dev Build 2120

Postby aparajita on Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:42 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Nate -- I use your icon for ST2 and adore it. I hope it is adopted as the official icon before ST2 is released.
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Re: Dev Build 2120

Postby natebeaty on Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:13 pm

aparajita wrote:Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Nate -- I use your icon for ST2 and adore it. I hope it is adopted as the official icon before ST2 is released.


Ah, thanks! I use SublimeLinter! haha. I guess I misread the tone of your comment (as is so easy to do on the interwebs).

Totally agree that documentation is tedious and time-consuming, and that I'd love to see more for ST2. Hell, I'd also love to see a facelift on the website homepage and a nicer icon (Soda took care of my UI woes, particularly in the Find panel), *and* a snippet/prefs editing interface. With that said, I'm very happy that Jon puts his efforts into the internal code instead of the aesthetics, and don't expect much else at this stage. The rapid release schedule blows me away.

I assume when the time comes for a v1.0 release, he'll look into shifting efforts into the docs and other details. If nothing else, hire some folks to help out with design. Until then, I'll just keep copying over my janky icon multiple times a week.

I also am spreading the word on ST2. In the last few months it's really started maturing into an unbelievably powerful & fun editor. It's amazing as-is, but I agree that a little love in the design and docs would really make the userbase explode.
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Re: Dev Build 2120

Postby aparajita on Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:02 am

Here is a script I run when a new release comes out, it installs your icon again.

#!/bin/bash
cp -f "$HOME/Development/Libs/Sublime Text 2/Sublime Text 2.icns" "/Applications/Sublime Text 2.app"/Contents/Resources
cp -r "/Applications/Sublime Text 2.app" "/Applications/Sublime Text 2 copy.app"
rm -rf "/Applications/Sublime Text 2.app"
mv "/Applications/Sublime Text 2 copy.app" "/Applications/Sublime Text 2.app"

Change "$HOME/Development/Libs/Sublime Text 2/Sublime Text 2.icns" to the path to your icon.
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Re: Dev Build 2120

Postby natebeaty on Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:52 am

Aha! Thanks, works great. I tried setting up my own script a while ago, but forget what caused me to give up. I certainly didn't think to cp, rm, & mv the app.
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