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Re: Nightly Build 2188

Postby tanepiper on Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:48 am

C0D312 wrote:hmmmm.... Been nearly a week since the last nightly. Not sure If I should be worried or excited. Either way, I'm definitely spoiled from all those frequent updates.


Yea, if we're not getting actual nightlys' then I don't think it should be called that. Maybe change these to dev releases, and dev to release candidates instead?
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Re: Nightly Build 2188

Postby sublimator on Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:02 am

It's only possible to be `visibly` productive in that mode if you have a lot of experience and are working on incremental improvements.

I'm actually more interested when there is silence, as though there's a good chance it's just burnout, it also could be `the calm before the storm`

What if Jon is working on some new TextBuffer? You wouldn't have public consumable nightly progress during a drastic redesign.

I once hassled Jon for an API so repeatedly he finally snapped "!#$#$ hell man, I work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week"

I guess he deserves a breather :)
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Re: Nightly Build 2188

Postby nick. on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:13 pm

castles_made_of_sand wrote:I once hassled Jon for an API so repeatedly he finally snapped "!#$#$ hell man, I work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week"

I guess he deserves a breather :)


Actually, I'm curious: is developing ST2 Jon's full time job, or is it just something he does in his spare time? Though it's popularity is growing, I doubt ST2 brings in enough.
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Re: Nightly Build 2188

Postby sublimator on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:29 pm

For a long time it was a weekend thing, with stints where Jon would work full time. Wasn't until ST2 on OSX and @wbond's package control that things really took off and the future was certain. I'm fairly sure it's a full time job now. At least it was relatively recently. I'm guessing Sublime pulls in more than most would think.
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Re: Nightly Build 2188

Postby DJMurtz on Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:50 pm

castles_made_of_sand wrote:For a long time it was a weekend thing, with stints where Jon would work full time. Wasn't until ST2 on OSX and @wbond's package control that things really took off and the future was certain. I'm fairly sure it's a full time job now. At least it was relatively recently. I'm guessing Sublime pulls in more than most would think.


Not sure how Jon would do this, but if he released some kind of subscription for $10 per month, I would gladly pay for it. In the world of SaaS and web apps, it certainly makes a lot more sense to actually charge per month/year. Because if he doesn't, and sales start to slip, he'll be more tempted to wrap things up for 2.0 and start working on 3.0 to get another round of income.

On the other hand, we can see Instapaper by Marco Arment as a perfect example how a $5 app can give you plenty of income to be an independent developer. And ST2 costs $50, so Jon would need 1/10th (even less, counting the 30% cut for Apple with Instapaper) of the customers Marco gets for Instapaper to get on the same income scale. And Marco doesn't even get the sales boost of a new major version from existing customers because these are free on iOS. But now we're comparing a comsumer/iOS product to a developer/desktop product, which is like comparing Apple(s) to oranges.

*Just some random thoughts while we wait for a new Nightly*
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Re: Nightly Build 2188

Postby tanepiper on Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:45 pm

castles_made_of_sand wrote:It's only possible to be `visibly` productive in that mode if you have a lot of experience and are working on incremental improvements.

I'm actually more interested when there is silence, as though there's a good chance it's just burnout, it also could be `the calm before the storm`

What if Jon is working on some new TextBuffer? You wouldn't have public consumable nightly progress during a drastic redesign.

I once hassled Jon for an API so repeatedly he finally snapped "!#$#$ hell man, I work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week"

I guess he deserves a breather :)


Oh don't get me wrong, I very much appreciate all the hard work he puts in - just seems weird we start to get nighties, then basically there is only one release. Makes me think the Bus Factor of 1 has been invoked :(
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Re: Nightly Build 2188

Postby jbrooksuk on Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:29 pm

Not a word from Jon in a few days either. Hope he's ok...

I still think that for Jon to increase sales etc, he should invest in a new site-design, also a better forum I'd say. phpBB is awful :(
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Re: Nightly Build 2188

Postby underparnv on Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:41 pm

Trying to get this a bit back on topic... :)

I got the following message in the 2188 nightly and it made me a chuckle a bit. Maybe increase the time before this gets thrown? :)

A plugin (set_unsaved_view_name) may be making Sublime Text unresponsive by taking too long (0.026570s) in its on_modified callback.

This message can be disabled via the detect_slow_plugins setting


I went ahead and disabled the messages for now...just wanted to point it out :-)

Thanks for the great software!
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Re: Nightly Build 2188

Postby C0D312 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:10 pm

I got the following message in the 2188 nightly and it made me a chuckle a bit. Maybe increase the time before this gets thrown?


Because the on_modified event handler is thrown every time the user presses a key, any delay can be noticeable. The warning notifies you what plugin is causing the delay, how much time it takes, and makes the user more conscious of plugins, etc. So (0.026570s) can have an impact on performance. But yeah, if you don't want to see the message, just turn it off. Personally, I wouldn't mind if it said: "A plugin may be making Sublime Text [...] Check this box to ignore this warning in the future."
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