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Sublime Text 2 vs WeBuilder

Postby domdidom on Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:07 am

I'm currently discovering Sublime Text which is great, but to switch away from Webuilder, I'm still missing some features..
Here is a list of the pro's/advantages of each program, I could be wrong about some stuff, and I'm only using it for web development (HTML/CSS/PHP).


Sublime Text 2 pros

- Fast
- Fast access to files ctrl+P
- Great Syntax Coloring (dark)
- Multiple selections
- MiniMap very usefull
- Lots of Plugins :
- Zen coding
- Code Intel
- Can I use : CSS support jumpto
- ColorHighlighter : shows CSS color visually
- htaccess color syntaxing
- GotoDocumentation : PHP doc jumpto


WeBuilder pros

- Easy buttons for fast access (no need to remember 999 shortcuts)
- Visual image insertion in HTML (automatically with size) and CSS
- Snippets library (no need to remember the shortcuts, but you can make some)
- Good/Easy color picker
- Change caracters OR tags cases
- Working code printing with line numbering and syntax coloring


I'm open to any comments..
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Re: Sublime Text 2 vs WeBuilder

Postby iamntz on Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:12 am

- Easy buttons for fast access (no need to remember 999 shortcuts)

I really can't see how this is a Pro for an editor. As a programmer what do you use more? Your mouse or your keyboard? If you want to use mouse more, probably dreamweaver would be a better solution...

- Visual image insertion in HTML (automatically with size) and CSS
- Snippets library (no need to remember the shortcuts, but you can make some)

Tools -> New snippet.

Code: Select all
- Good/Easy color picker

I think there is a plugin for that.

Code: Select all
- Change caracters OR tags cases

Ctrl+k,l and ctrl+k,u.

Code: Select all
- Working code printing with line numbering and syntax coloring

There is a plugin for that.
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Re: Sublime Text 2 vs WeBuilder

Postby S0und on Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:17 am

iamntz wrote:
Code: Select all
- Change caracters OR tags cases

Ctrl+k,l and ctrl+k,u.



Wohohoh, STOP RIGHT THERE! THAT'S A SHORTCUT, BURN IT WITH FIRE!


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Re: Sublime Text 2 vs WeBuilder

Postby weslly on Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:51 am

iamntz wrote:
Code: Select all
- Good/Easy color picker

I think there is a plugin for that.

http://weslly.github.com/ColorPicker/

iamntz wrote:
Code: Select all
- Working code printing with line numbering and syntax coloring

There is a plugin for that.

https://github.com/joelpt/sublimetext-print-to-html
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Re: Sublime Text 2 vs WeBuilder

Postby prmaple on Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:58 am

S0und wrote:
iamntz wrote:
Code: Select all
- Change caracters OR tags cases

Ctrl+k,l and ctrl+k,u.



Wohohoh, STOP RIGHT THERE! THAT'S A SHORTCUT, BURN IT WITH FIRE!


this comment deserves a slap in the face, i know



Hahaha, such a great troll
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Re: Sublime Text 2 vs WeBuilder

Postby domdidom on Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:40 pm

okayy.. let's try to be constructive and let me explain more precisely, looks like you need more details :

1- Case change : CTRL+K, L and CTRL+K,U changes both tags AND text.. I said I wanted to change the case of tags OR text..
for example if I select a bunch of line in my html and I want to change only the case of the inside text and not the tags, if I press "CTRL+K then L"
everything is changed.. that's not what I wanted.. ok.. this is not an important feature :P

2- ColorPicker : of course I allready installed the ColorPicker plugin (the other one, "colorpick", only works for Mac if I'm not mistaken).. ok, so now I have the usual color picker from windows.. like in Paint.. duh.. I wanted something more modern.. :ugeek:

3- Buttons : I don't care if I look like a pro or not, I want my coding to be fast and practical.. maybe lots of coders have a great brain memory with 100s or 1.000s of shortcuts in their heads.. I don't.. :roll: Even when you have editors with buttons, you can hide the button bars to look like a pro if you want :D , but if you have bad memory or are just starting to learn the shortcuts.. you're wasting a lot of time trying to remember.. for example, I printed out a cheat sheet with the most important shortcuts and zen coding.. of course I hope to no need it anymore after a while.

4- Code printing : If you read well, I said working code printing.. because for me it doesn't work, nothing happens, even if I click the menu "File/Print as html in browser" (on 2 different computers).. but maybe you will tell me it doesn't work with Sublime Text in portable mode..

5- Image insertion : I allready installed the "AutoFileName" plugin, which is great but only if you know the name of the file you want to insert and if you start typing it.. which in most cases in don't remember.. that's why I prefer to be able to have a dialog box to browse to my image folder and preview it there before selecting it.. I would love to have a better solution of course.. how do you guys do it.. I'm open to suggestions 8-)
And I don't see how the snippets library can help me.. maybe you need to explain this to me..
For now, what I do is "img+TAB" so i have my tag.. but then, how to choose an image ?


Ok, and here is a list of the shortcuts I modified for myself :
  • F1 : PHP goto_documentation
  • F5 : CSS can_i_use
  • F8 : toggle_side_bar
  • SHIFT+F9 : convert HTML entities

one more thing.. on Webuilder, if I want to turn lines of text into a list I just select the lines and press a button.

In SublimeText.. I select the line and then I have to do "CTRL+SHIFT+L" for multi-line edit, then "ALT+SHIFT+W" to wrap selection in tag, then write "li" which is at this point added to every line that is selected.. and finaly add the "ul"..
it doesn't seem to me that this way is faster than cliking a button..

Maybe there is a snippet or plugin i don't know about yet :roll:

Happy trolling ;) (well not really.. I'd prefer you to be constructive than to waste our time.. or maybe you don't use Sublime because it's fast ? But only because it makes you look like pros ? LOL )
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Re: Sublime Text 2 vs WeBuilder

Postby vitaLee on Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:58 pm

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Re: Sublime Text 2 vs WeBuilder

Postby iamntz on Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:35 pm

@domdidom: You probably misunderstood. pro as in pros and cons, not pro as in professional.

one more thing.. on Webuilder, if I want to turn lines of text into a list I just select the lines and press a button.

If you have to move your hand to the mouse then move the cursor to that button, most likely you are slower than pressing ctrl+shift+L then alt+shift+w then type li. Also, ast @vitaLee mentioned, there is a quicker way of doing that.

If pressing few keys is too much, you can always create a macro.

Btw, how can you type code if you have a bad memory? :)
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Re: Sublime Text 2 vs WeBuilder

Postby xeno.by on Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:39 pm

By the way instead of hotkeys you could also use command palette.
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Re: Sublime Text 2 vs WeBuilder

Postby domdidom on Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:45 pm



Great, thanks :)

So to turn my lines into a list : I just select the lines, do "CTRL+ALT+ENTER" or "ALT+SHIFT+W" and type "ul>li*" in the command line that appeared ! :idea:

Zen coding seems powerpful, thanks for the link 8-)
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