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Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby Noxalus on Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:39 pm

Hi everyone !

I discovered Sublime Text 2 a few weeks ago, and I love it ! I love it so much that I would like to buy the pro version to cheer on developers, but when I see the price, I totally changed my mind :o

Why it's so expensive ?! I don't work yet, and I haven't a lot of money, 59$ it's too much. Althought Sublime Text 2 is an excellent text editor, it's not an IDE, it's just a text editor, so why ?

A price between 10$ and 30$ will be more affordable. Do you know Synthesia ? It's an excellent soft for piano players, and developpers make a really good job like you, and 2 years ago, I bought a license for only 10$.

Thanks you anyway for your work, and keep going like this, the standard version is enough for me ;)
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby SeanWcom on Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:54 pm

I don't think it's expensive at all, but it all just depends on what you do with it. I make a living writing code, and I write a GREAT deal of that code in ST2. So when I compare my salary in a given year versus how much it costs to own Sublime Text, it's a no-brainer.

Now if you don't have a job and you just tinker with code, or write stuff for free, then I can see how it would be expensive to you. If this is the case, and you're good at it - why not earn some money doing it? There are plenty of sites where you can bid on a job (PHP, Javascript, Ruby, etc, etc), complete the job, then get paid. :)

Also, be sure to think about this from the developer's perspective. One person wrote the app (correct me if I'm wrong community). If he has sold 5,000 copies for $60 bucks (I have no idea how many have been sold) then he's made $300,000 in sales. That doesn't mean he's made $300k though. I can't speak for the developer, but I pay taxes that would cut that number down significantly. Then there's healthcare costs, medicare, 401k (and other retirement funds) to think of. Also, don't forget that he's been working on this for years - he may not have made anywhere near that amount of money. I'd be willing to bet that the developer doesn't get paid much at all when all is said and done.

Last thing to keep in mind is that you can use the free version indefinitely. You just have to put up with the popup. That's a small price to pay (no price at all) for a great app. :)
Multiple selections... one of my favorite ST2 features. View some noob-friendly screen casts here.
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby S0und on Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:17 pm

SeanWcom wrote:I don't think it's expensive at all, but it all just depends on what you do with it. I make a living writing code, and I write a GREAT deal of that code in ST2.


I don't even write code for living but to make my boring job a hell lot of easier. I don't know if this even possible, but ST played a major role why am i love programming right now.
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby pier on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:21 am

ST is cheap as chips...

I spend around 50% of my pro time with ST, and the other 50% with Adobe CS6, which costs me 600$ every year. And that can still be considered cheap.
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby SilverRubicon on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:41 pm

I write code for a living so maybe my opinion is skewed, but I don't feel that it's "so" expensive. $40 may be a better price point but for as much as I use and love it, I'm happy with the $60.
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby iamntz on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:57 pm

Here we go again.
Every now and then, there is something complaining about the price...

Do you know Synthesia ? It's an excellent soft for piano players, and developpers make a really good job like you, and 2 years ago, I bought a license for only 10$.


Awesome. Why don't you use Synthesia to write some code?
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby pier on Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:07 pm

iamntz wrote:Awesome. Why don't you use Synthesia to write some code?


:D

Even better, why not use Internet Explorer to to write code. It's a great piece of software and it's free!!!
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby amphetamine on Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:37 pm

SeanWcom wrote:Also, be sure to think about this from the developer's perspective. One person wrote the app (correct me if I'm wrong community). If he has sold 5,000 copies for $60 bucks (I have no idea how many have been sold) then he's made $300,000 in sales. That doesn't mean he's made $300k though. I can't speak for the developer, but I pay taxes that would cut that number down significantly. Then there's healthcare costs, medicare, 401k (and other retirement funds) to think of. Also, don't forget that he's been working on this for years - he may not have made anywhere near that amount of money. I'd be willing to bet that the developer doesn't get paid much at all when all is said and done.

Don't be naive, I'd be shocked if he wasn't making a killing from it.

iamntz wrote:
Do you know Synthesia ? It's an excellent soft for piano players, and developpers make a really good job like you, and 2 years ago, I bought a license for only 10$.


Awesome. Why don't you use Synthesia to write some code?

I don't know where he was going with this either but you being a dick about it is just as pointless.

To the OP, yeah, $59 is exorbitant for a text editor, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It's not as simple as relativist "I make that much from developing with it in x hours" thinking, the fact of the matter is that within its own marketplace, it's expensive. If you do want to look at it from a relative perspective then consider, for example, school-age hobbyist coders and countries with a much lower GDP per capita than America (i.e. most of us) where the price is steeper in "real" terms. Even when I was programming for fun during my school years, I would've paid for a program like Sublime could I have afforded it.

I can't personally afford it but fortunately the evaluation model is very generous all things considered so people like me aren't suffering for it.
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby svenax on Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:13 am

amphetamine wrote:To the OP, yeah, $59 is exorbitant for a text editor, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It's not as simple as relativist "I make that much from developing with it in x hours" thinking, the fact of the matter is that within its own marketplace, it's expensive. If you do want to look at it from a relative perspective then consider, for example, school-age hobbyist coders and countries with a much lower GDP per capita than America (i.e. most of us) where the price is steeper in "real" terms. Even when I was programming for fun during my school years, I would've paid for a program like Sublime could I have afforded it.


Let me tell you otherwise. We can compare to other text editors on the market:

  • $299 (single user, single platform) - SlickEdit
  • $250 - Lugaru's Epsilon (a purely text based editor with almost no graphical GUI)
  • $100 - UltraEdit multi platform
  • $60 - UltraEdit single platform
  • $50 - BBEdit

Most of these have considerably less features than Sublime. Sure, Sublime could be cheaper, it could even be free. That would make some people happy. But still I can not understand why people are quibbling about $10-15 for a product they use every day for many years.
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby iamntz on Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:51 pm

I'm not a dick, but don't expect logic response when you compare apples with apricots...

You don't afford this editor? You could use it as evaluation (forever!) or switch to other.
There are a LOT of cheap or free editors out there. You could go with Vim, Netbeans, Aptana, Notepad++, hell, even with good old Notepad!

Is THAT simple!

To the OP, yeah, $59 is exorbitant for a text editor, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

vs
To the OP, yeah, $59 it's a good price for a text editor, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

See how $59 went from a bad price to a good price? :)
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