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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby sublimator on Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:31 am

SeanWcom wrote:that does seem like a bit much


If you are only looking at the number of forum members
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby pete340 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:44 pm

castles_made_of_sand wrote:Ah, I see. You concluded I was correcting his math with some wildly off base number.


I almost accused you of innumeracy.
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby quarnster on Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:49 pm

SeanWcom wrote:
castles_made_of_sand wrote:@SeanWcom

Surely you mean $96, 000 a month right?


Hey, if he WERE making that much money, more power to him. I'm all about getting paid for hard work. But, $96,000 per month would mean that he's selling 1,600 copies of ST2 per month. That's over 50 licenses per day. I'm not saying he isn't - but that does seem like a bit much.

Ultimately it doesn't matter. The issue at hand is the cost of the editor. I don't think it's expensive but as someone else pointed out, it's all relative, so we're in the world of opinion which we could argue about all day. :) Here's a thought: Call of Duty Black Ops 2 raked in over 500 million in 24 hours (at $60 bucks for the standard, non-collector's edition). That's over 8.3 million copies sold in 24 hours. That's 8.3 million people who don't think $60 bucks is a lot to spend on a game. Why should it be a lot to spend on any other software? And we're back to opinion. :)

I do want to mention that I'm not intending to criticize anyone for their opinion, so I apologize if I came off that way. :D


If the stats at http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/community are accurate, there are 838990 users of package control. Granted, not every package control user has paid for ST2, not every paying user use package control and there are many who have paid but have since switched to another editor. But as an exercise lets say that the numbers are totally accurate, that 10% of the Package Control users have paid for a license, that the editor has been in development for exactly 5 years and that it has always cost $59. That gives us (838990*0.1*59)/(5*12) ~= $82500/month
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby jbrooksuk on Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:52 pm

What Package Control would benefit from is an API method for seeing if Sublime has been registered or not :)
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby pier on Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:56 pm

quarnster wrote:If the stats at http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/community are accurate, there are 838990 users of package control. Granted, not every package control user has paid for ST2, not every paying user use package control and there are many who have paid but have since switched to another editor. But as an exercise lets say that the numbers are totally accurate, that 10% of the Package Control users have paid for a license, that the editor has been in development for exactly 5 years and that it has always cost $59. That gives us (838990*0.1*59)/(5*12) ~= $82500/month


But that is indeed pure speculation... if ST was such a lucrative business I don't think Jon would keep working as a solo cowboy.
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby iamntz on Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:08 pm

if ST was such a lucrative business I don't think Jon would keep working as a solo cowboy

Unless... he enjoy what he is doing ?
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby pier on Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:30 pm

iamntz wrote:Unless... he enjoy what he is doing ?


Hiring people doesn't mean you don't get to work anymore... it means you get to finish your ideas faster.

If you choose your team wisely: 3 brains + 30 fingers > 1 brain + 10 fingers
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby iamntz on Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:59 pm

Man, I wish you were right! Hiring more people usually means managing more people, letting you less time to code.

In theory, your math it's good. In practice you will see that 3 brains + 30 fingers it's not always better than 1 brain + 10 fingers. Been there, done that (although with only one brain plus at once :) ). Such a team you speak about it's so rare that i think it's a myth :mrgreen:
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby pier on Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:09 pm

iamntz wrote:Man, I wish you were right! Hiring more people usually means managing more people, letting you less time to code.

In theory, your math it's good. In practice you will see that 3 brains + 30 fingers it's not always better than 1 brain + 10 fingers. Been there, done that (although with only one brain plus at once :) ). Such a team you speak about it's so rare that i think it's a myth :mrgreen:


As I said, it depends on how you choose and manage the team. I agree it's not always the case, that's for sure. If the leader is not respected, and if there are conflicts between team mates, then it's pretty much a fail.

That's enough off topic for now...
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Re: Why buy ST2 is so expensive ?

Postby iamntz on Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:30 pm

That's enough off topic for now...

Sure! Not that the rest of the project was very on topic! :mrgreen: :ugeek:
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