kaiser101 wrote:Seems to be pretty much a one way street as far as being civil is concerned, but hey, you can claim the high ground. I cant stop that.
I don't think I was making any claim to the moral high ground, but I have posted 52 times in these forums, and I believe that I've been civil throughout, despite being called names and having my intelligence questioned. So, make of that what you will.
kaiser101 wrote:So let me see if I understood this correctly. If you purchased a license when the price was hiked to 70$ and with the rider that this is valid for Sublime Text 3, you were suckered. So now move on, right?
OK, so I think I understand your frustration now. The current license is st3 and previous versions, so if st3 is never released, you don't get what you paid for. I hadn't noticed that change in the purchase agreement, and had assumed that licenses purchased now were for st2 and would be also valid for st3. But I don't think that changes the point I was trying to get across. If you purchased a license, you would have to decide for yourself whether or not you were "suckered". For me, I use ST every day (the latest st3 dev build, specifically, which a license purchaser does get access to), for hours a day. Sure, I could simply ignore the nag screen and continue to use the trial of st3 beta until st3 is actually released, but I'd feel a little guilty just because of how much use I actually get out of st. I purchased an st2 license, so when st3 is released, I'll have to buy an upgrade license, which I will happily do. If Jon had the option already available, he would have had my money months ago.
kaiser101 wrote:Now I can come up with two causes why someone would still want to back jps' lack of communication, you either were suckered into buying a license yourself or you received it as a freebie. I wonder which one is the case here.
How about neither. As stated above, I bought an st2 license at the lower price. I did so because I started using the trial, and found that I was using it every day. It made me more productive than the other tools I'd tried. Plus, I teach college on the side, and the looks on my students faces when I use a template to fill in some bit of code is priceless
I use ST every day in my day job, and in every lecture I teach. For me, st has more than paid for itself in the time I've saved in repetitive editing tasks. Would I like more frequent releases? Yes. But as far as communication from Jon, I couldn't care less. The only reason I speak up is that I get sick of people ragging on the guy. I don't think he deserves a lot of the angst directed at him in the forums, and I'd rather he spent his time working on st than coming into the forums and posting just so that people feel comforted that he is still working on it. And frankly, I don't blame him for avoiding the forums. If you had released a product, and every time you visited the forums for that product the top post was always "why the hell hasn't he released the next version yet" or "what kind of an idiot creates an editor without feature X" you might not want to subject yourself to that either. So, yeah, I speak up to let Jon know that there are people who try to understand his situation, and to try to point out to those who are critical of him that their assessment of Jon's situation might not be correct.